多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

我记得看过哪篇帖子,写香港人调侃很多大陆同胞胸口都贴着一个“勇”字,对投身房市是那么毅然决然,那么的义无反顾,那么的无视风险。我觉得很形象,也很贴切。而且我觉得问题并不完全在购房者本人,他们很多人都是初来乍到,不熟悉加拿大,也不懂加拿大房地产和国内房地产存在本质区别,他们很多人看到的只是“面子”上的东西,容易受到媒体或者从业人员的影响。

我始终认为,房子以住为本,这是购房置业的主导。很多加拿大本地人,一生要换多种不同的工作,生活在不同的地方,人跟着工作跑,这才是他们愿意租房而不买房的主因。国内来的移民朋友,特别是新移民,在匆匆投身房地产市场之前,应该要问问自己:我会不会在这里长期定居而不会迁移,定居在这片区域是否有利于自己和家人的发展,如果房价不涨或者下跌,我是否能够承受?

很多从业人员喜欢把客户往投资赚钱方面引导,这样做是出于职业利益,当然也无可厚非。但是否在大讲特讲投资赚钱的同时,要多提示一下投资风险,让客户作出均衡的判断。

从长期来看,任何资本市场,包括房地产市场走势都是向上的,这句话就像人类社会和文明总是向前发展的一样,是一句非常正确但不具任何实际指导意义的话。和股市一样,房地产市场也同样蕴藏风险,决不是什么我买入持有,就能赚钱的市场。房地产市场投资不慎,同样会给一个家庭带来毁灭性的打击,这样的例子举不胜举。

每个人对投资的时机看法不同,这是很正常的,但是缺乏正确的投资理念,忽视甚至无视风险,这样极有可能会误己误人。
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

下一代不让他住多伦多受罪了,物价高,气候差,夏天炎热,冬天寒冷阴郁,平均收入不高,税重,商品种类不全。要买房给下一代,不要选择多伦多
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

多伦多星报

http://www.thestar.com/business/rea...d_toronto_real_estate_market_hot_as_ever.html
First-time buyers find Toronto real estate market hot as ever

By:Susan PiggBusiness Reporter, Published on Fri Mar 29 2013

First-time homebuyers Jody and Michael Fegelman have heard a lot of talk over the last year about Canada’s cooling housing market. All the couple have felt is the sting of its heat.

During their 1½-year search for a home for their two young children, the Fegelmans have been on the losing end of three grueling bidding wars. They have paid for a home inspection on a place someone else got by paying $80,000 over the asking price.

They’ve felt heartache, disappointment and fear that their children Jack, 5, and Lilly, 2½, would be renters for life.

“My parents just kept saying, ‘Wait. Prices are going to come down,’ says Fegelman. “But the truth is, there is a boom going on in Toronto. I don’t think things will change or bidding wars will stop.”

Over the last four years, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has tightened mortgage lending rules in a desperate bid to bring reason to the red-hot housing market, especially in Toronto and Vancouver where prices have hit the stratosphere during the last decade, propelled largely by low interest rates.

That, combined with surging supply of new condo projects, has definitely sent a chill through Toronto’s highrise housing sector since last summer, but demand for lowrise houses shows no signs of letting up.

Although home sales were down 11.5 per cent and listings up slightly as of mid March over a year earlier, unrelenting competition among buyers for too few properties for sale — especially in the City of Toronto — saw prices jump six per cent across the GTA, according to the Toronto Real Estate Board.

Semi-detached homes sold for an average $622,044 in the City of Toronto in mid-March, up a whopping 12.2 per cent from a year earlier (they were up just 2.9 per cent in the 905 regions to $398,328.)

Detached homes climbed by 7.2 per cent to an average $909,910 in Toronto, outpaced slightly in the 905 regions were a 7.7 per cent climb saw average prices hit $603,797.

Townhouses in the 416 region climbed by 8.2 per cent in mid March year over year to $447,460, compared to an almost seven per cent increase in the 905 regions to an average $375,420.

Even the cooling condo sector, where resale condo sales were down almost 10 per cent in mid-March year-over-year and listings have been climbing, saw price growth of 1.9 per cent in the City of Toronto, compared to just 0.2 per cent in the 905 regions.

“We’re seeing a major culture shift and a complete redefinition of what’s desirable and the (housing) market is reflecting that now,” says veteran urban planner Ken Greenberg.

“There is a new North American dream, and it’s no longer to have the suburban house and the fleet of cars. It’s living where you can buy your groceries on foot and you have access to transit.”

With the peak buying and selling period, spring market, just around the corner, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation is seeing some interesting indicators as well.

“We’re not seeing as many first-time buyers getting into the market right now because of affordability, but there is a considerable pool of people who have bought over the past 10 years and have outgrown their condominiums,” says Shaun Hildebrand, CMHC’s Toronto market analyst.

“There is strong demand for move-up properties fairly close to the core.”

The biggest supply-demand imbalance right now in the GTA is for semi-detached homes priced between $500,000 and $700,000 in areas like Roncesvalles and Leslieville, says Hildebrand.

Even some areas of Durham Region, close to Toronto’s border, have seen a tightening of supply because of first-time buyers looking for more affordable housing options, he added.

At the same time, demand for downtown rentals unlike anything seen in the last 20 years has driven rents to mortgage-like levels and is starting to tip the balance in favour of owning, given slipping condo prices and low interest rates, says Hildebrand.

Despite what sounds like all good news for the housing market, selling real estate has never been harder, says veteran broker Sally Cook. And it’s bringing out the worst in the industry: Underpricing to drive up competition for what little is out there and holding off accepting offers for days to create a frenzy of longing.

“It’s become emotionally, physically and financially draining,” for would-be home buyers, as well as agents, says Cook. “I decided last year to concentrate my efforts with first-time buyers looking for condos. There’s lots of inventory and I don’t have to fight over it.”

The frustration of what turned out to be a 1½-year search for a place to call home convinced the Fegelmans they needed to try something different. On the suggestion of their agent, Ira Jelinek, they started mining MLS data earlier this month for houses that had been languishing on the market for weeks.

They were the only bidders for a derelict semi-detached house in the Vaughan Rd. and St. Clair Ave. W. area that had listed since October. Originally priced at $599,000, they were the only bidders and got it for $460,000.

That’s because it needs over $100,000 in renovations.

“It’s very hard to cool or control a market when you have so many buyers chasing the same type of houses,” says Jelinek. “Agents who sell in my demographic, to people in their late 20s and early 30s, are feeling the effects of this market, too.

“The good thing is, this will weed out a lot of the realtors who’ll just say, ‘It’s too hard right now to be an agent.’ This is when the good ones will stick out.”

天天叫个不停,叫你去拿15%的奖金,比天天吆喝容易得多,你却不肯,真傻啊
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

“牛B吹大!房价有起有落,高位买的肯定后悔。
忠言逆耳!

楼主就多伦多来讲没错,

你不知道多伦多房价连涨了16年吗? 啥时是高位, 1973年5万买个独立屋是高位? 2003年50万买是高位? 还是2013年100万买是高位, 2023年180万买是高位?

没有最高, 只有更高!!

事实是, 在多伦多买了房没有一个说后悔的, 踏空的才悔青了肠子的多得是.

不懂事的不要说啥忠言..
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

楼主就多伦多来讲没错,

你不知道多伦多房价连涨了16年吗? 啥时是高位, 1973年5万买个独立屋是高位? 2003年50万买是高位? 还是2013年100万买是高位, 2023年180万买是高位?

没有最高, 只有更高!!

事实是, 在多伦多买了房没有一个说后悔的, 踏空的才悔青了肠子的多得是.

不懂事的不要说啥忠言..

现在开始连跌20年,除非开放大量中国移民
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

多伦多的话,说实话我也比较看好的(最起码是不会跌的,,涨不涨就难说了),,温哥华房市是真心不能进的

主要是看不惯楼主那种不负责任的说话方式
 
G

gordondeng

Guest
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
0.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

大多和大温本就是加国楼市的发动机,大温10年里涨幅远超大多,大多现在只不过是追落后的行情。
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

我始终认为,房子以住为本,这是购房置业的主导。很多加拿大本地人,一生要换多种不同的工作,生活在不同的地方,人跟着工作跑,这才是他们愿意租房而不买房的主因。

以住为本,你这点同样是来自国内思维,并不适合这里。我以前(甚至到现在)也是同样的看法,但接触本地人特别是本地科技从业人员多了,才发现本地人的思维并不是“以住为本”。举例说:大多同事都自住一套房,但拥有额外的高层apt出租投资,有的3-4套。不是说人家收入比咱们高多少,这个没办法,人家先天条件比咱们优越,有的是多代人下来积累的财富。但他们大多数人不是炒房,而仅仅就是投资。那持有的架势绝对都是10年以上的,所以也不会因为楼市涨跌而操心烦恼。

当然,花光玩光、自由自在的也不少,但感觉普遍是文化程度、社会地位不高的群体。
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

以住为本,你这点同样是来自国内思维,并不适合这里。我以前(甚至到现在)也是同样的看法,但接触本地人特别是本地科技从业人员多了,才发现本地人的思维并不是“以住为本”。举例说:大多同事都自住一套房,但拥有额外的高层apt出租投资,有的3-4套。不是说人家收入比咱们高多少,这个没办法,人家先天条件比咱们优越,有的是多代人下来积累的财富。但他们大多数人不是炒房,而仅仅就是投资。那持有的架势绝对都是10年以上的,所以也不会因为楼市涨跌而操心烦恼。

当然,花光玩光、自由自在的也不少,但感觉普遍是文化程度、社会地位不高的群体。

“以住为本”并不是什么国内思维,也不是什么国外思维,它只是回归于于房地产的基本居住属性而已。提倡以住为本,并不是要抹杀房地产的投资功能,而是希望普通的移民家庭在购房置业时多考虑家庭的实际需要和实际承受能力,多从“住”而不是“涨”的角度去思考自己的需求,避免陷入误区。

从家庭的财产配置来看,房屋绝对是家庭财富重要的组成部分之一,但以纯投资为目的置业行为,是在安居乐业基础之上的另外一个层面的需求。这个国内国外都是如此,特别在国内,稍微有一定经济基础的家庭都会持有不止一套房产。

本地人的消费特点和购房习惯,如果接触更广泛的人群可以了解得更清楚。假如你在国内和国外都有房产,而且持有一定的投资出租物业,应该可以清楚认识到国内外房地产投资的巨大区别,更能体会在加拿大秉承“以住为本”置业理念的重要性。
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

:wdb10:
楼主就多伦多来讲没错,

你不知道多伦多房价连涨了16年吗? 啥时是高位, 1973年5万买个独立屋是高位? 2003年50万买是高位? 还是2013年100万买是高位, 2023年180万买是高位?

没有最高, 只有更高!!

事实是, 在多伦多买了房没有一个说后悔的, 踏空的才悔青了肠子的多得是.

不懂事的不要说啥忠言..

前几天steeles@leslie有1 house ,出来2天,3张offer(其中也有老外的)。

事实胜于雄辩,有闲钱的赶快投,没闲钱的少忽悠别人。

感觉现在在多伦多投资地产,比在温哥华,租金回报率要好。只要租金能带来+现金流,管它房价升降,都不受影响,10多年后,房价肯定比现在高。有什么东西会越用越值钱的?

LZ不忍看“持币观望”,好心摆出自己观点,被拍:wdb14:
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

买房子自住和买房子投资是有区别的.像我等穷人,每个月勒紧裤腰带供个将来可以升值的房子,不敢吃不敢喝,不敢在自己身上投资充电,没有了余地去追求新的机会和更好的生活,人纯粹成了为房子而活,这是典型的房子升值自己贬值.房子是死的,人是活的,你能赚多少钱远比你有多少资产重要,何况有资产通常也就是有负债.如果你没能力赚钱,守个房子也未必能守住.如果自己没有足够能力买房子,无论房价涨势如何,又有什么关系呢?投机的确是有人能赚到,但这比率有多大?如果人人都能靠投机赚钱,这社会迟早要crash.劝有钱人买房子是正常的,以升值为理由劝没钱人也买房子,这有些过分.
 
G

gordondeng

Guest
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
0.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

买房子自住和买房子投资是有区别的.像我等穷人,每个月勒紧裤腰带供个将来可以升值的房子,不敢吃不敢喝,不敢在自己身上投资充电,没有了余地去追求新的机会和更好的生活,人纯粹成了为房子而活,这是典型的房子升值自己贬值.房子是死的,人是活的,你能赚多少钱远比你有多少资产重要,何况有资产通常也就是有负债.如果你没能力赚钱,守个房子也未必能守住.如果自己没有足够能力买房子,无论房价涨势如何,又有什么关系呢?投机的确是有人能赚到,但这比率有多大?如果人人都能靠投机赚钱,这社会迟早要crash.劝有钱人买房子是正常的,以升值为理由劝没钱人也买房子,这有些过分.

你这话说的,房子向来和没钱的人没啥关系,可最想买房的却是没钱的。有钱的纠结无非是在哪买,买什么,什么价格买。没钱的往往纠结在有没有钱买,买不买得起,供不供得起。一个是解决吃什么的问题,一个是解决吃的问题,相差太远
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

你这话说的,房子向来和没钱的人没啥关系,可最想买房的却是没钱的。有钱的纠结无非是在哪买,买什么,什么价格买。没钱的往往纠结在有没有钱买,买不买得起,供不供得起。一个是解决吃什么的问题,一个是解决吃的问题,相差太远

:wdb10:
可是有些人就是要打肿脸充胖子,宁可天天吃挂面泡水也要买个房子,:wdb14:
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

3.空置率居低不上,租金收入不断上涨,暂时不买房的人,租房也开始抢offer了。

5年前来到多伦多,younge and sheppard 一室户 租金1340,现在还是这个价
 
最大赞力
0.00
当前赞力
100.00%
回复: 多伦多地产市场依然HOT,现在不买可能下一代都要成renters

普通老百姓说买房是投资纯属扯淡,买房是消费好不好。

像gaoden这样的人买房才是投资,还是慢收益投资,做这个行业就职业点儿,别忽悠人赶紧买,看米下锅,消费得起就买,消费不起就租,投资个毛线。
 

Similar threads

家园推荐黄页

家园币系统数据

家园币池子报价
家园币最新成交价
家园币总发行量
加元现金总量
家园币总成交量
家园币总成交价值

池子家园币总量
池子加元现金总量
池子币总量
1池子币现价
池子家园币总手续费
池子加元总手续费
入池家园币年化收益率
入池加元年化收益率

微比特币最新报价
毫以太币最新报价
微比特币总量
毫以太币总量
家园币储备总净值
家园币比特币储备
家园币以太币储备
比特币的加元报价
以太币的加元报价
USDT的加元报价

交易币种/月度交易量
家园币
加元交易对(比特币等)
USDT交易对(比特币等)
顶部